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Příspěvekod Moleek » 07 dub 2013 16:11

confused píše:Nechci nějak shazovat dabingy.. třeba u simpsonových se mi zdá úplně dokonalý ale tady u himym je to prostě něco co se opravdu nepovedlo.
1) U většiny postav mi ten hlas vůbec nesedí v porovnání s originálem je to něco strašnýho a Barney je tam snad nejhorší a to nemluvim o Tedovi a Lily.

U Simpsonů ty hlasy taky nejsou moc podobné, jenže na simpsonovy všichni koukali hlavně na ČT a s dabingem, takže jsou prostě zvyklí.

confused píše: 3) Jakmile jsem slyšel v češtině - To bude Legen - počkej si na to - dární .. Tak jsem ten seriál musel vypnout, protože něco takového přeložit/nadabovat do češtiny je opravdu s prominutím "hnus".

Ta hláška v češtině pro Čechy zní stejně jako v angličtině pro anglicky mluvící. Je to prostě překlad.
To, že ti originál přijde "hustější" je prostě tím, že to je cizí jazyk a prostě to vnímáš jinak.
Přirovnal bych to k názvu kapel: Red Hot Chilly Peppers zní dobře, ale kdyby se kapela jmenovala Červené pálivé chilly papričky, tak je to neuvěřitelně stupidní. Naopak Vypsaná Fixa už je zavedená spíš jako ten název a když se to řekne, tak si každý vybaví kapelu a ne fixu, co nepíše.
Zas na druhou stranu dabovat to jako "Legen -wait for it- dární" by asi nebyl problém a znělo by to mnohem líp. To máš pravdu
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Příspěvekod confused » 07 dub 2013 18:47

Myslim, že kombinovat angličtinu s češtinou v dabingu * zrovna v tomhle - "Legen -wait for it- dární" *
to by asi taky nebyl zrovna nejlepší nápad... ale čeština přece není tak omezený jazyk ne ? věřím, že by se dalo určitě vymyslet něco podobného, co by neznělo tak stupidně jako počkej si na to .......


u simpsonů s tebou nesouhlasím, podle mě to není o zvyku ale o tom !co se jak povede jak už dabing nebo originál to je jedno.

třeba já, viděl jsem simpsonovi nejdříve v originálu a asi po 3 seriích co mi poradil kamarád dabing tak jsem si ho okamžitě zamiloval. A věř mi, že někdo dokáže mít opravdu otravný hlas jako například Marche v originálu.
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Re: Dabing CZ

Příspěvekod Céčko » 22 dub 2013 01:26

U dabingu ale nejde jen o překlad, ale i o to, aby se věty trefovaly do toho, jak otevírají pusu.
Proto občas naprosto změní význam věty a je to prasečina.
Nejhorší je, když znáte vtip v originále a dabing ho úplně pohřbí, buď proto, že je to nepřeložitelný dvojsmysl, nebo se zkrátka nevešel překlad do slabik.
HIMYM navíc namluvili naprosto nevhodní dabéři, ale to i Big Bang.
Kdo zná seriál Community, tak jeho překlad je snad ještě větší žumpa, než HIMYM a Big bang dohromady.
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Příspěvekod confused » 27 dub 2013 18:35

Céčko : mluvíš mi z duše.. aspoň jeden tu má přehled o tý hrůze :*)
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Příspěvekod Poster » 23 srp 2013 23:19

Tak aj ja sem hodím svoj názor k dabingu k HIMYM a vlastne o dabingu celkovo.
Ono ja som prvý krát videl HIMYM v českom dabingu, velmi sa mi ten seriál zapáčil a zaradil sa k TOP oblubeným seriálom. Lenže jak som to pozeral neskôr v originále - v AJ, no neprišlo mi to už také vtipné a nebola tam už taká "atmosféra" ako s českym dabingom. Tym chcem povedať, že je to skôr o tom, že v akom jazyku si to ako prvé pozriete. HIMYM pozerám len v češtine, no ale taký BBT kukám v AJ, lebo som to tak začal odzačiatku pozerať ako HIMYM v cz a príde mi ten český dabing v BBT strašný, nepozerateľný ako niektorým tu cz dabing HIMYM. A k cz dabingu HIMYM - podla mňa je velmi dobrý ;)
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Příspěvekod Makec » 29 zář 2013 17:03

confused píše:Nechci nějak shazovat dabingy.. třeba u simpsonových se mi zdá úplně dokonalý ale tady u himym je to prostě něco co se opravdu nepovedlo.

1) U většiny postav mi ten hlas vůbec nesedí v porovnání s originálem je to něco strašnýho a Barney je tam snad nejhorší a to nemluvim o Tedovi a Lily.

2) Proč, řekněte mi proč upravují text na úplně něco jinýho, než bylo řečeno v originále ? Tohle je opravdu něco co nechápu. Nejenom že to se to nepovedlo upravit ale proč to upravují tak hodně, že třeba změní úplně celou konverzaci kvůli pár větám ? Nejenom že je to méně vtipné ale zaměňují originál s něčím úplně jiným.

3) Jakmile jsem slyšel v češtině - To bude Legen - počkej si na to - dární .. Tak jsem ten seriál musel vypnout, protože něco takového přeložit/nadabovat do češtiny je opravdu s prominutím "hnus".
(další věci jako zdrobněliny,hlášky a jejich různé výmysly slov - děs ///v češtině///)

4) Jak tohle mám říct, jejich "výjevy" např. když hučí, křičí , cokoliv jiného co je mimochodem opravdu vtipné s ohledem na jejich partu. To jak to nadabovali,napodobování něčeho co udělali, je opravdu něco tak strašného, že mi bylo až trapně, když jsem to slyšel oproti originálu.

Opravdu český dabing nedoporučuji.
s originálem se to nedá vůbec srovnávat.

Když už, tak bych na něco takového nedělal dabing vůbec, než to takhle strašně zprznit.



Víceméně souhlasím ve všech bodech. Na český dabing se jednoduše nekoukám, vadí mi, protože jsem zvyklá na originál. Jenom k té trojce - nenapadá mě, jak lépe by to šlo přeložit, nechat to v originále, působilo by to v kontextu ještě hůř.
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Re: Dabing CZ

Příspěvekod Fricoolinek » 23 pro 2013 07:17

Já myslím, že dabing je OK. Písařík je celý Randor, "Andělka" Elsnerová se k Lily hodí taky. M. Novotný je snad ještě větší moula než Segel, Chudobovou neznám (hereckou kariéru skončila v roce 1998 na Lavici obžalovaných - možná škoda, na role nějakejch postav typu "pod tvrdou slupkou se skrývá..." by se hodila). David Novotný je z nejvýznamnější hereckou osobností z celé pětky. No, úplně se NPH nepodobá, ale řekl bych, že si ho dává dobře. Z Čechů mi NPH trochu připomíná Petra Lesáka (ale z něj to buzeranství už dost čpí), tak vyřknu jinou osobu, jenž nás už více než 100x oblažila svou One Man Show.
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Příspěvekod Dr.Nick » 29 pro 2013 17:19

No ne, fricek stále žije :lol:
Vím, že Novotný je docela častý příjmení, ale teda Barney je Jarda Kužel?
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Příspěvekod Džejňulka » 12 dub 2014 23:14

Myslím, že ani nemá cenu obhajovat tu znovu český dabing, ale vážně lidi - kdo tvrdíte, že Michal Novotný na Marshalla nebo David Novotný na Barneyho nehodí, tak jste prostě a jednoduše zaujatí, protože ten první pán má opravdu podobný hlas originálu a dobře hraje, ten druhý (ano - je to Jarda Kužel :) ) sice není hlasově nejpodobnější, ale zato je to velký fanoušek HIMYM, sleduje seriál dopředu ještě předtím, než ho dabuje (to dělá v dnešní době fakt málokdo), dabování Barneyho si nesmírně užívá a navíc je výbornej herec.
Další spojení už nechám být, tam ať ti klidně myslí kdo chce co chce.
Překlad je náhodou super, akorát prostě něco tak dobře přeložit nejde, protože vtip se vždy překládá dost těžko, zvlášť pokud je založen na nějaké slovní hříčce nebo dvojsmyslu v daném jazyce. Lidi, co HIMYM překládají, odvedli dobrou práci.
Navrhované Legen-wait for it- dární - tak to je opravdu blbost :lol: počkej si je normální ekvivalent wait for it...jen je to česky... jinak tohle je bezva hláška v kterémkoli jazyce :)
HIMYM mám ráda a nemám problém se dívat na originál ani na dabing :) záleží, jak se mi chce :)
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